Jin
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Post by Jin on Sept 13, 2015 21:03:12 GMT -5
Need a new PC? PC having issues? Software questions? Gaming peripheral questions? TV questions? Sound questions? Ask them here and someone will get to it, maybe. Will be updating OP with useful information in due time. Power Supply Tier List : www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html Get top tier stuff, low tier shit still works but uses lower quality components. If you think skimping out on a PSU is fine, don't complain when you end up with a fried PC, or 3 (it's more common than you'd think).
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zZunair
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Post by zZunair on Sept 13, 2015 21:26:55 GMT -5
Have two questions if that's alright 1) This is a weird problem but I'm computer illiterate so I need some help here. So my friend hooked me up with his old capture card which will let me play some newer games like CSGO/Dota 2. Anyways, I found out I'm lacking a wire to actually power up the capture card (need more length) and it seems it's a kind of odd wire as my computer smart friend had no clue about it. Anyways I need to find the other wire to connect this and connect to the capture card as I don't have enough length but I dunno what to search for. Here's a pic of the wire I'm not sure which wire I'm supposed to specifcally grab for the p2 wire so im asking here 2) Need a new laptop. Mainly one that'll work for school and play some games like crusader kings 2 so my brother can play his game without having to buy another laptop. So my criteria I guess for a laptop is $200-$400 ($500 is a hard limit but I'm hoping not to go there), works well for school, reliable/wont die on me, can run some games like Dota 2, ck2, etc
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Jin
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Post by Jin on Sept 17, 2015 21:54:10 GMT -5
Have two questions if that's alright 1) This is a weird problem but I'm computer illiterate so I need some help here. So my friend hooked me up with his old capture card which will let me play some newer games like CSGO/Dota 2. Anyways, I found out I'm lacking a wire to actually power up the capture card (need more length) and it seems it's a kind of odd wire as my computer smart friend had no clue about it. Anyways I need to find the other wire to connect this and connect to the capture card as I don't have enough length but I dunno what to search for. Here's a pic of the wire I'm not sure which wire I'm supposed to specifcally grab for the p2 wire so im asking here 2) Need a new laptop. Mainly one that'll work for school and play some games like crusader kings 2 so my brother can play his game without having to buy another laptop. So my criteria I guess for a laptop is $200-$400 ($500 is a hard limit but I'm hoping not to go there), works well for school, reliable/wont die on me, can run some games like Dota 2, ck2, etc 1) Okay so a capture card is used for capturing game content for streaming and such. What you are talking about is a video card. So I can help you better download Speccy from here www.filehippo.com/download_speccy and run it. The main screen should look like this: What you have in your picture is most likely a fan power cable, and not one to power the card itself, in which case you need to find a header to connect it to (but it should be connected to the card itself in most cases). Fan headers look like this (there's 3 and 4 pin versions) $400 for a laptop is sadly not going to get you much but I'll see what I can find.
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zZunair
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Post by zZunair on Sept 30, 2015 21:24:22 GMT -5
My bad for the late reply Jin but thanks a ton im too much of a dummy with computers. And lol don't know how I mixed up Video card with capcard
Also my brother is just grabbing a chromebook/netbook or something since he decided he just needs it for school.
Thanks again though Jin!
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Oct 1, 2015 1:39:47 GMT -5
Do you have any experience with programming languages like Python, Ruby, Java, etc.?
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Antstyle
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Post by Antstyle on Oct 1, 2015 6:40:25 GMT -5
Do you have any experience with programming languages like Python, Ruby, Java, etc.? I have experience with Java, but not Python or Ruby.
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Oct 1, 2015 17:04:42 GMT -5
Do you have any experience with programming languages like Python, Ruby, Java, etc.? I have experience with Java, but not Python or Ruby. That's fine. I just wanted to know if anyone here is into programming because I'm considering teaching myself. I'm planning on building a PC that will allow me to both play games and (maybe) practice coding. I say maybe because this might be an impulse decision, but I know for a fact I want to build a gaming PC. Seems like $400-$600 is a decent place to start. What do you guys think about the builds in that price range? www.logicalincrements.com I was looking at the second "good" and first "very good" builds. I'd like to have a job that works with computers, so I decided to look into programming because it sounds more practical than 3D animation. I don't even know if that would be possible for me. Still, becoming familiar with software and hardware is a good idea since computers aren't going anywhere.
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Antstyle
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Post by Antstyle on Oct 1, 2015 17:34:45 GMT -5
I have experience with Java, but not Python or Ruby. That's fine. I just wanted to know if anyone here is into programming because I'm considering teaching myself. I'm planning on building a PC that will allow me to both play games and (maybe) practice coding. I say maybe because this might be an impulse decision, but I know for a fact I want to build a gaming PC. Seems like $400-$600 is a decent place to start. What do you guys think about the builds in that price range? www.logicalincrements.com I was looking at the second "good" and first "very good" builds. I'd like to have a job that works with computers, so I decided to look into programming because it sounds more practical than 3D animation. I don't even know if that would be possible for me. Still, becoming familiar with software and hardware is a good idea since computers aren't going anywhere. Yup, I do a fair amount of programming. You don't need anything expensive to practice coding, so in terms of buying a computer I wouldn't worry about that - gaming on the other hand tends to require something a lot more than $600, but it largely depends on what games you plan to play, and what performance settings you're willing to settle for with in those games - give me an idea of what games you plan to play and I can take a look.
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Oct 1, 2015 18:56:13 GMT -5
That's fine. I just wanted to know if anyone here is into programming because I'm considering teaching myself. I'm planning on building a PC that will allow me to both play games and (maybe) practice coding. I say maybe because this might be an impulse decision, but I know for a fact I want to build a gaming PC. Seems like $400-$600 is a decent place to start. What do you guys think about the builds in that price range? www.logicalincrements.com I was looking at the second "good" and first "very good" builds. I'd like to have a job that works with computers, so I decided to look into programming because it sounds more practical than 3D animation. I don't even know if that would be possible for me. Still, becoming familiar with software and hardware is a good idea since computers aren't going anywhere. Yup, I do a fair amount of programming. You don't need anything expensive to practice coding, so in terms of buying a computer I wouldn't worry about that - gaming on the other hand tends to require something a lot more than $600, but it largely depends on what games you plan to play, and what performance settings you're willing to settle for with in those games - give me an idea of what games you plan to play and I can take a look. Something that will run single player games like Dark Souls and Bioshock, random games on Steam, maybe some MMOs that aren't too demanding if possible. I don't have a specific price point at the moment, just want to get an idea of what I should be looking out for. Thanks.
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Antstyle
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Post by Antstyle on Oct 1, 2015 19:45:55 GMT -5
Hmm. A little bit of looking around got me to this quote to use as an example, which is $782 before shipping, over at CyberPowerPC: (I'll copy paste the important stuff here, the page isn't too neat looking) CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-6300 3.80GHz 4MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Skylake) [-210] HDD: 128GB SanDisk SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+43] (Combo Drive) MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG Z1) VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 [-36] (Single Card) I mean, the other stuff is important too, but these are the things you'll need to adjust for the most part when deciding what you want to be able to run. On the budget we're looking at, you're probably better off buying a cheaper dual-core processor imo - most games do not make good use of quad-core processors, and for a budget gaming PC I'd rather have two fast cores than four slightly slower ones. Memory is very much a case of convenience mostly - you only need more than 8GB if you're stupid like me and continually keep craptons of browser tabs open... and it won't be the bottleneck of a system of this level in any case. You could go higher than a GTX 750Ti and get a GTX 950 - one of the advantages of the 950 is that it's SLI compatible, so if you wanted to upgrade your graphics later on down the line you can just buy another 950 and use both of them. To make it cheaper, though, a 750Ti is probably fine. To give a bit of context, this is what I use: Mostly I run Starcraft II and League of Legends on this, and they work fine at max settings, but those are slightly older games.
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Oct 1, 2015 23:28:23 GMT -5
Yeah I figured it'll cost more than what I mentioned if I wanted to run those games smoothly without sacrificing quality and performance. I think my brother built his own recently, I'll talk to him about the components you've mentioned and see if he can help me out.
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Miles
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Post by Miles on Oct 4, 2015 18:58:16 GMT -5
Hi >__>
So ever since last week I got a new monitor, processor and video card. I could play games like SF4, DMC4, Mass Effect 2 just fine but my video card and processor just weren't powerful enough to play them at max settings or any games that require more than those so that's basically why I wanted better equipments.
The main issue though, ever since I got to play online (more specifically USF4) the netcode has gone so bad to the point of being unplayable... and I just think this new equipment somehow has something to do with this because before there was no problem with it (obviously I'd still go into bad connections every once in a while but nowhere near as bad as it is now).
Info about my new equipment:
Processor: AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core Processor Video Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
Edit: I'm pretty newbie at this tech talk so I'm sorry if I didn't give enough information...
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Oct 4, 2015 20:57:29 GMT -5
Hi >__> So ever since last week I got a new monitor, processor and video card. I could play games like SF4, DMC4, Mass Effect 2 just fine but my video card and processor just weren't powerful enough to play them at max settings or any games that require more than those so that's basically why I wanted better equipments. The main issue though, ever since I got to play online (more specifically USF4) the netcode has gone so bad to the point of being unplayable... and I just think this new equipment somehow has something to do with this because before there was no problem with it (obviously I'd still go into bad connections every once in a while but nowhere near as bad as it is now). Info about my new equipment: Processor: AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core Processor Video Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series Edit: I'm pretty newbie at this tech talk so I'm sorry if I didn't give enough information... I'm new at this too. Maybe try playing on lower settings to determine whether or not your internet is the cause? Antstyle what do you think of this build? pcpartpicker.com/p/KJNqFTMay make some small changes in the future. An i3-6300 and i5-4690 are other options. A GTX 950 and i5-4690k would be nice, but I don't need it. Not planning on maxing everything out and overclocking.
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kaiten92
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Post by kaiten92 on Oct 4, 2015 22:20:32 GMT -5
Hi >__> So ever since last week I got a new monitor, processor and video card. I could play games like SF4, DMC4, Mass Effect 2 just fine but my video card and processor just weren't powerful enough to play them at max settings or any games that require more than those so that's basically why I wanted better equipments. The main issue though, ever since I got to play online (more specifically USF4) the netcode has gone so bad to the point of being unplayable... and I just think this new equipment somehow has something to do with this because before there was no problem with it (obviously I'd still go into bad connections every once in a while but nowhere near as bad as it is now). Info about my new equipment: Processor: AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core Processor Video Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series Edit: I'm pretty newbie at this tech talk so I'm sorry if I didn't give enough information... A processor and a video card should have nothing to do with your online gaming. That being said, are you sure it's just when you play online and not also when you play offline (like in training)? Did you change any settings in USF4 since upgrading? Actually now that I think about it, I've read a lot of comments that say USF4's in-game Vsync causes input lag and I wouldn't be surprised if you got new tech that could handle max settings and turned everything on (because I did as well at first). Tho tbh, I just tried it now and although Vsync feels slower (actually makes Rose feel heavy if that makes sense), I could still do combos with the same timing so it may depend on how good your PC actually is. Another thing I would suggest is checking your actual video card's settings. They usually have a program made for your video card (or your brand of video card) and it overrides all game settings (if applied). There may be settings in the program that are too resource heavy and are slowing down your game. Of course, that stuff only applies if there's "lag" in offline modes as well. If it really is online only, I would run a speed test (speedtest.net) to make sure your internet hasn't become slower than usual and see if anyone's DLing anything. Jin could probably help better than me but I see no reason why either a processor or a video card would affect your online gaming.
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Antstyle
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Post by Antstyle on Oct 4, 2015 22:44:29 GMT -5
Hi >__> So ever since last week I got a new monitor, processor and video card. I could play games like SF4, DMC4, Mass Effect 2 just fine but my video card and processor just weren't powerful enough to play them at max settings or any games that require more than those so that's basically why I wanted better equipments. The main issue though, ever since I got to play online (more specifically USF4) the netcode has gone so bad to the point of being unplayable... and I just think this new equipment somehow has something to do with this because before there was no problem with it (obviously I'd still go into bad connections every once in a while but nowhere near as bad as it is now). Info about my new equipment: Processor: AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core Processor Video Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series Edit: I'm pretty newbie at this tech talk so I'm sorry if I didn't give enough information... As Kaiten said, you need to test different scenarios to isolate the issue, i.e. - Is it only in USF4 that slowdowns occur or in other games too? - Is it online only or does it occur offline as well? - Did any settings change in USF4 since you upgraded your hardware? Once we have the answers to those it will be easier to narrow down what we're looking at. Try different games, try both USF4 and other games online/offline (not just load them up, play them) - and check if you changed any USF4 settings since you upgraded. Do you have 2+ screens, Miles ? If it doesn't become obvious what the issue is, we can configure Windows perfmon tool on one screen to monitor how your processor/video card/ram etc are behaving while a game runs on the other. (We can use it without 2 screens... it's just more convenient) I'm new at this too. Maybe try playing on lower settings to determine whether or not your internet is the cause? Antstyle what do you think of this build? pcpartpicker.com/p/KJNqFTMay make some small changes in the future. An i3-6300 and i5-4690 are other options. A GTX 950 and i5-4690k would be nice, but I don't need it. Not planning on maxing everything out and overclocking. Seems fine to me. Are you planning to put that together yourself or have it built somewhere? (Warranty options to consider versus saving a small bit of money building it yourself)
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Shadow
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Post by Shadow on Oct 4, 2015 23:46:59 GMT -5
Hi >__> So ever since last week I got a new monitor, processor and video card. I could play games like SF4, DMC4, Mass Effect 2 just fine but my video card and processor just weren't powerful enough to play them at max settings or any games that require more than those so that's basically why I wanted better equipments. The main issue though, ever since I got to play online (more specifically USF4) the netcode has gone so bad to the point of being unplayable... and I just think this new equipment somehow has something to do with this because before there was no problem with it (obviously I'd still go into bad connections every once in a while but nowhere near as bad as it is now). Info about my new equipment: Processor: AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core Processor Video Card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series Edit: I'm pretty newbie at this tech talk so I'm sorry if I didn't give enough information... As Kaiten said, you need to test different scenarios to isolate the issue, i.e. - Is it only in USF4 that slowdowns occur or in other games too? - Is it online only or does it occur offline as well? - Did any settings change in USF4 since you upgraded your hardware? Once we have the answers to those it will be easier to narrow down what we're looking at. Try different games, try both USF4 and other games online/offline (not just load them up, play them) - and check if you changed any USF4 settings since you upgraded. Do you have 2+ screens, Miles ? If it doesn't become obvious what the issue is, we can configure Windows perfmon tool on one screen to monitor how your processor/video card/ram etc are behaving while a game runs on the other. (We can use it without 2 screens... it's just more convenient) I'm new at this too. Maybe try playing on lower settings to determine whether or not your internet is the cause? Antstyle what do you think of this build? pcpartpicker.com/p/KJNqFTMay make some small changes in the future. An i3-6300 and i5-4690 are other options. A GTX 950 and i5-4690k would be nice, but I don't need it. Not planning on maxing everything out and overclocking. Seems fine to me. Are you planning to put that together yourself or have it built somewhere? (Warranty options to consider versus saving a small bit of money building it yourself) I think I've done enough research to be comfortable with the thought of building it myself. You have to learn someday, right? Thanks for the help!
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kaiten92
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Post by kaiten92 on Oct 5, 2015 0:05:11 GMT -5
As Kaiten said, you need to test different scenarios to isolate the issue, i.e. - Is it only in USF4 that slowdowns occur or in other games too? - Is it online only or does it occur offline as well? - Did any settings change in USF4 since you upgraded your hardware? Once we have the answers to those it will be easier to narrow down what we're looking at. Try different games, try both USF4 and other games online/offline (not just load them up, play them) - and check if you changed any USF4 settings since you upgraded. Do you have 2+ screens, Miles ? If it doesn't become obvious what the issue is, we can configure Windows perfmon tool on one screen to monitor how your processor/video card/ram etc are behaving while a game runs on the other. (We can use it without 2 screens... it's just more convenient) Seems fine to me. Are you planning to put that together yourself or have it built somewhere? (Warranty options to consider versus saving a small bit of money building it yourself) I think I've done enough research to be comfortable with the thought of building it myself. You have to learn someday, right? Thanks for the help! Building and completing your PC build is such a great feeling. Just make sure you keep everything organized and you should do fine. I would even suggest looking up a video on someone building a PC with that case to see if there's any problems you may run into. For example, putting in X part first because Y part makes it harder to put in. I would also buy some cable ties to keep the cords neat if your case doesnt have ways to hide and secure them.
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Miles
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Post by Miles on Oct 11, 2015 15:52:58 GMT -5
Antstyle, kaiten92, Shadow, Sorry for not saying anything over the week, I kept forgetting to come here to say that I'd give it a week to see if my internet connection had anything to do with it... so once again sorry >__>... Well, turns out it has nothing to do with my internet connection, I guess I was just getting so upset about the horrible lag that I thought my new PC videocard/processor had something to do with it, but it really was just a coincidence. Everything is running just fine with every other game, too so no problems.
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kaiten92
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Post by kaiten92 on Oct 11, 2015 18:42:59 GMT -5
Your post is confusing me a bit. Is SF running fine now?
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Miles
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Post by Miles on Oct 11, 2015 20:11:47 GMT -5
Your post is confusing me a bit. Is SF running fine now? Sorry it's because I didn't proof read my post >__>... basically my new PC stuff has nothing to do with how bad my internet connection was last week, every game (including SF) is running fine both offline and online.
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kaiten92
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Post by kaiten92 on Oct 12, 2015 12:37:09 GMT -5
Good job OTTech Squad
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Jin
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Post by Jin on Oct 12, 2015 20:02:06 GMT -5
Oh hey I haven't really posted here much, will be updating OP in a few days I think
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Post by kaww on Oct 22, 2015 2:38:00 GMT -5
What was that program you gave me a while ago for easy overclocking
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Antstyle
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Post by Antstyle on Oct 22, 2015 7:20:34 GMT -5
Power Supply Tier List : www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html Get top tier stuff, low tier shit still works but uses lower quality components. If you think skimping out on a PSU is fine, don't complain when you end up with a fried PC, or 3 (it's more common than you'd think). A proper PSU is an investment in your other hardware, even on a budget PC, and bad PSUs really are good at destroying things. Considering the price of most systems, even budget ones, a decent PSU is not that expensive and is well worth it.
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Jin
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Post by Jin on Oct 22, 2015 18:17:22 GMT -5
What was that program you gave me a while ago for easy overclocking I don't remember
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